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'''PUA编码调整方案'''和'''扩展推荐集'''的方案制定和讨论将在这个页面进行。 | '''PUA编码调整方案'''和'''扩展推荐集'''的方案制定和讨论将在这个页面进行。 | ||
== PUA编码调整方案 == | == PUA编码调整方案 == | ||
新的PUA编码方案预计将和 | 新的PUA编码方案暂定的命名为「希顶协调码」,目前仍在确定和调整的阶段中,预计日后将和扩展推荐集(「新希扩」)一同发布,并逐步取代当前的PUA编码方案。目前扩展推荐集已经基本定型。 | ||
PUA编码 | PUA编码以每256(即100<sub>(16)</sub>)个字符称为一「页」(page),每页内按照一定结构放置同一类型的字符,同时为了保持整齐的结构,字符的排列不要求填充满全页的空位。若一个页内放置为一般的希顶字母(在基本字母页外),则依次纵向地包含大-小-中-汉四种写体,一共可放置64个字母。 | ||
基本字母页(第〇页)一部分继承当前的PUA编码的基本字母部分不做调整:在页开头段放置希顶的特殊字符和希顶特殊汉字,而在其后纵向地依次包含基本字母(共45+1+2个)大-小-中三种写体,其中末尾的2个是新添加的类基本字母。而基本字母的汉写体放置在该码段的末尾逐个排列。 | 基本字母页(第〇页)一部分继承当前的PUA编码的基本字母部分而不做调整:在页开头段放置希顶的特殊字符和希顶特殊汉字,而在其后纵向地依次包含基本字母(共45+1+2个)大-小-中三种写体,其中末尾的2个是新添加的类基本字母。而基本字母的汉写体放置在该码段的末尾逐个排列。 | ||
第1页 | 第1页用于放置扩展推荐集,而之后的页用于放置(经过修订的,非当前序号)希吕字母和其他方言所用的字母,方言创作者原则上可向社区提交申请添加自己的字母。注意字母认同是按地位而非字形。 | ||
页面排布如下表: | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
|+希顶协调码页码表 | |||
! 页码序号 !! 字母序号 !! 编码序号 !! 名称 !! 备注 | |||
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| | | 0 || 0-2F || 20-AF || 基本希顶字母和类扩充字母 || 30-3F预留,以防可能的字母变动 | ||
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| | | 1 || 40-7F || 100-1FF || 扩展推荐集 || | ||
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| | | 2 || 80-BF || 200-2FF || 扩展兼容集A || 放置方言所需字母的统合 | ||
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| | | 3 || C0-FF || 300-3FF || 扩展兼容集B || 为将来预留,在扩兼A排满之后放入扩兼B | ||
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| | | 4 || 100-13F || 400-4FF || 附标字母A || rowspan="2" | 附标字母没有大写和中写,空余的区域可能用来放置一些符号 | ||
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| | | 5 || 140-17F || 500-5FF || 附标字母B | ||
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| | | 6 || 180-1BF || 600-6FF || 希吕函子区 || 1B8-1BF是八卦,用于希顶神秘学推导 | ||
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| | | 7 || 1C0-1FF || 700-7FF || 希吕字母(保护) || 因历史原因不可更改的字母 | ||
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| | | 8 || 200-23F || 800-8FF || 希吕音字A区 || | ||
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| | | 9 || 240-27F || 900-9FF || 希吕意字合字A区 || | ||
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| | | 10 || 280-2BF || A00-AFF || 希吕音字B区 || | ||
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| | | 11 || 2C0-2FF || B00-BFF || 希吕意字合字B区 || | ||
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| | 字母编号系统的调整亦和PUA编码方案相耦合,用十六进制数以表示。在基本字母页外可以以((字母序号)*4+0或1或2或3)的规则映射到大写、小写、中写、汉写的编码码位。PUA编码方案默认将和原编码系统接近,偏移在Unicode的e000区开始,而在特殊需要下也允许采取其他的处理。 | ||
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| | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
| | |+ 基本字母页编码表 | ||
| | ! e0- !! 0 !! 1 !! 2 !! 3 !! 4 !! 5 !! 6 !! 7 !! 8 !! 9 !! a !! b !! c !! d !! e !! f | ||
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| | | 0 || 弃 || colspan="12" | 希顶下标数字 || || || | ||
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| | | 1 || || || || || || colspan="11" |希顶汉字 | ||
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| | | 2 || colspan="16" |大写字母 | ||
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| | | 3 || colspan="16" |小写字母 | ||
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| 4 || colspan="16" |中写字母 | |||
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| 5 || colspan="16" |大写字母 | |||
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| 6 || colspan="16" |小写字母 | |||
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| 7 || colspan="16" |中写字母 | |||
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| 8 || colspan="16" |大写字母 | |||
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| 9 || colspan="16" |小写字母 | |||
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| a || colspan="16" |中写字母 | |||
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| d | | d || colspan="16" |汉写字母 | ||
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| e | | e || colspan="16" |汉写字母 | ||
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| f | | f || colspan="16" |汉写字母 | ||
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
|+其他页编码排序方式示例 | |||
! 低位 !! rowspan="2" | 0 !! rowspan="2" | 1 !! rowspan="2" | 2 !! rowspan="2" | 3 !! rowspan="2" | ⋯ | |||
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| 0 | | 0 || 大 || 大 || 大 || 大 || ⋯ | ||
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| 1 | | 1 || 小 || 小 || 小 || 小 || ⋯ | ||
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| 2 | | 2 || 中 || 中 || 中 || 中 || ⋯ | ||
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| 3 | | 3 || 汉 || 汉 || 汉 || 汉 || ⋯ | ||
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| ⋮ | | ⋮ || ⋮ || ⋮ || ⋮ || ⋮ || ⋱ | ||
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===說明=== | |||
#編碼序號中14—1F的「希頂漢字」實爲希頂外字。其目的只是兼容早期編碼,不再編入希頂外字。 | |||
== 扩展推荐集 == | == 扩展推荐集 == | ||
由于当前的扩充字母在排序上和选字上缺乏足够的规则和实用性,希顶社区规范化讨论组拟定了以下的扩展推荐集方案,扩展推荐集包含了大部分旧有扩充字母,少量在规范形上略做调整,预计将局部取代原有的扩充字母范畴。扩展推荐集设计上包含了一般希顶方言所常用的音位,事实上成为一套系统的类宽式音标体系。希顶方言的创作者和希顶字母使用者可以基于其来创作自己的方言正字法和转写记音体系。 | |||
扩展推荐集的序号范围为40~7F,共64个。 | 扩展推荐集的序号范围为40~7F,共64个。注意:下表的排列归类上相较实际的音位排列存在一部分的合并。 | ||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
|+扩展推荐集音位表 | |+扩展推荐集音位表 | ||
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
! colspan="11" | 韵基与{{color|green|介音}} | |||
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下面是推荐集字母表的暂定字形, | 下面是推荐集字母表的暂定字形,已经基本确定,日后一部分可能继续有极细微的微调。 | ||
[[File:原希顶字母表.jpg|450px|thumb|left|alt=原希顶字母表|原希顶字母表]] | |||
[[File:新扩充推荐集.jpg|450px|thumb|left|alt=新扩充推荐集|新扩充推荐集]] | |||
== Proposal to add the letter "Б" into shidinn extensions == | |||
Hello. This is probably the most unnecessary page in this wiki but it's atleast better than making a topic in the shilu discussion page since nobody is rlly active in discussion pages; I had a question and it's still unanswered. anyways please don't sue me for making this | |||
here's a proposal to add letter "Б" into the shidinn extensions alphabet | |||
[[File:Letter б.png]] | |||
===Some stuff about the letter=== | |||
-It makes the sound /ʔb/ or /ʔɓ/ | |||
-It's derived from the old shidinn letter X-Bo and russian Б | |||
-It does not look like 6 at all. | |||
==== 6 Б==== | |||
what are the similarities? Nothing. That's your answer. Nothing. There are no similarities. | |||
===Why should it be added?=== | |||
FOREIGN NAMES >:| (my god my humor is so broken) | |||
Because its cool :) ☺️☺️☺️☺️ | |||
====== | |||
Б is basically reversed . Some letters have reversed versions of themselves. | |||
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. | |||
Б is good. Б looks like 6 to some people so is good luck. 🍀👍 | |||
its a great extension. I would know. My friends would know. Everyone would know. | |||
===Some other things to clarify=== | |||
-Б's lowercase form can also be written like a reversed . | |||
-My humor is broken | |||
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-Б and old X-Bo are related. That is a canon event. | |||
-I've seen a video about adding this letter to the new alphabet but i forgot what it is. Just trust me bro. | |||
-Sorry for the goofy parts | |||
-I don't speak chinese so this whole thing is in english sorry. <small>The section is moved from a content page by {{U|AyuthsCreatorPlays}}.</small> |
2024年12月16日 (一) 23:16的最新版本
PUA编码调整方案和扩展推荐集的方案制定和讨论将在这个页面进行。
PUA编码调整方案
新的PUA编码方案暂定的命名为「希顶协调码」,目前仍在确定和调整的阶段中,预计日后将和扩展推荐集(「新希扩」)一同发布,并逐步取代当前的PUA编码方案。目前扩展推荐集已经基本定型。
PUA编码以每256(即100(16))个字符称为一「页」(page),每页内按照一定结构放置同一类型的字符,同时为了保持整齐的结构,字符的排列不要求填充满全页的空位。若一个页内放置为一般的希顶字母(在基本字母页外),则依次纵向地包含大-小-中-汉四种写体,一共可放置64个字母。
基本字母页(第〇页)一部分继承当前的PUA编码的基本字母部分而不做调整:在页开头段放置希顶的特殊字符和希顶特殊汉字,而在其后纵向地依次包含基本字母(共45+1+2个)大-小-中三种写体,其中末尾的2个是新添加的类基本字母。而基本字母的汉写体放置在该码段的末尾逐个排列。
第1页用于放置扩展推荐集,而之后的页用于放置(经过修订的,非当前序号)希吕字母和其他方言所用的字母,方言创作者原则上可向社区提交申请添加自己的字母。注意字母认同是按地位而非字形。
页面排布如下表:
页码序号 | 字母序号 | 编码序号 | 名称 | 备注 |
---|---|---|---|---|
0 | 0-2F | 20-AF | 基本希顶字母和类扩充字母 | 30-3F预留,以防可能的字母变动 |
1 | 40-7F | 100-1FF | 扩展推荐集 | |
2 | 80-BF | 200-2FF | 扩展兼容集A | 放置方言所需字母的统合 |
3 | C0-FF | 300-3FF | 扩展兼容集B | 为将来预留,在扩兼A排满之后放入扩兼B |
4 | 100-13F | 400-4FF | 附标字母A | 附标字母没有大写和中写,空余的区域可能用来放置一些符号 |
5 | 140-17F | 500-5FF | 附标字母B | |
6 | 180-1BF | 600-6FF | 希吕函子区 | 1B8-1BF是八卦,用于希顶神秘学推导 |
7 | 1C0-1FF | 700-7FF | 希吕字母(保护) | 因历史原因不可更改的字母 |
8 | 200-23F | 800-8FF | 希吕音字A区 | |
9 | 240-27F | 900-9FF | 希吕意字合字A区 | |
10 | 280-2BF | A00-AFF | 希吕音字B区 | |
11 | 2C0-2FF | B00-BFF | 希吕意字合字B区 | |
⋮ | ⋮ | ⋮ | ⋮ | ⋮ |
字母编号系统的调整亦和PUA编码方案相耦合,用十六进制数以表示。在基本字母页外可以以((字母序号)*4+0或1或2或3)的规则映射到大写、小写、中写、汉写的编码码位。PUA编码方案默认将和原编码系统接近,偏移在Unicode的e000区开始,而在特殊需要下也允许采取其他的处理。
e0- | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | a | b | c | d | e | f |
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0 | 弃 | 希顶下标数字 | ||||||||||||||
1 | 希顶汉字 | |||||||||||||||
2 | 大写字母 | |||||||||||||||
3 | 小写字母 | |||||||||||||||
4 | 中写字母 | |||||||||||||||
5 | 大写字母 | |||||||||||||||
6 | 小写字母 | |||||||||||||||
7 | 中写字母 | |||||||||||||||
8 | 大写字母 | |||||||||||||||
9 | 小写字母 | |||||||||||||||
a | 中写字母 | |||||||||||||||
b | ||||||||||||||||
c | ||||||||||||||||
d | 汉写字母 | |||||||||||||||
e | 汉写字母 | |||||||||||||||
f | 汉写字母 |
低位 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | ⋯ |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
高位 | |||||
0 | 大 | 大 | 大 | 大 | ⋯ |
1 | 小 | 小 | 小 | 小 | ⋯ |
2 | 中 | 中 | 中 | 中 | ⋯ |
3 | 汉 | 汉 | 汉 | 汉 | ⋯ |
⋮ | ⋮ | ⋮ | ⋮ | ⋮ | ⋱ |
說明
- 編碼序號中14—1F的「希頂漢字」實爲希頂外字。其目的只是兼容早期編碼,不再編入希頂外字。
扩展推荐集
由于当前的扩充字母在排序上和选字上缺乏足够的规则和实用性,希顶社区规范化讨论组拟定了以下的扩展推荐集方案,扩展推荐集包含了大部分旧有扩充字母,少量在规范形上略做调整,预计将局部取代原有的扩充字母范畴。扩展推荐集设计上包含了一般希顶方言所常用的音位,事实上成为一套系统的类宽式音标体系。希顶方言的创作者和希顶字母使用者可以基于其来创作自己的方言正字法和转写记音体系。
扩展推荐集的序号范围为40~7F,共64个。注意:下表的排列归类上相较实际的音位排列存在一部分的合并。
唇 | 龈 | 腭 | 小舌 | 喉 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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浊塞 | 塞 | 送气塞 | 浊擦 | 擦 | 流 | 鼻 | 浊塞 | 塞 | 送气塞 | 浊擦 | 擦 | 流 | 鼻 | 浊塞 | 塞 | 送气塞 | 浊擦 | 擦 | 流 | 鼻 | 塞 | 浊擦 | 鼻 | 塞 | 浊擦 | 流 |
ɳ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dʐ | tʂ | tʂʰ | ʐ | ʂ | ɻ | ɳʐ | ||||||||||||||||||||
dz | ts | tsʰ | z | s | ɹ | nz | ||||||||||||||||||||
f | ʋ | dʑ | tɕ | tɕʰ | ʑ | ɕ | j | ɲ | ||||||||||||||||||
b | p | pʰ | v | β | ɸ | m | d | t | tʰ | ð | θ | l | n | g | k | kʰ | ɣ | x | ɰ | ŋ | q | χ | ɴ | ʔ | h | Ø |
d[w] | t[w] | tʰ[w] | ð[w] | θ[w] | l[w] | n[w] | g[w] | k[w] | kʰ[w] | ɣ[w] | x[w] | ɰ[w] | ŋ[w] | q[w] | χ[w] | ɴ[w] | ʔ[w] | |||||||||
dz[w] | ts[w] | tsʰ[w] | z[w] | s[w] | ɹ[w] | nz[w] | ɥ |
韵基与介音 | ||||||||||
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ɹ̩ ɹ | ɯ ɰ | i j | u w | y ɥ | (ɯ̃) | (ĩ) | (ũ) | (ỹ) | ||
eu | ei | ou | oi | |||||||
ə | ɤ | e | o | ø | ə̃ | ɤ̃ | ẽ | õ | ø̃ | |
ae | ɑo | |||||||||
Ø | a | ɑ | ã | ɑ̃ |
下面是推荐集字母表的暂定字形,已经基本确定,日后一部分可能继续有极细微的微调。
Proposal to add the letter "Б" into shidinn extensions
Hello. This is probably the most unnecessary page in this wiki but it's atleast better than making a topic in the shilu discussion page since nobody is rlly active in discussion pages; I had a question and it's still unanswered. anyways please don't sue me for making this
here's a proposal to add letter "Б" into the shidinn extensions alphabet
Some stuff about the letter
-It makes the sound /ʔb/ or /ʔɓ/
-It's derived from the old shidinn letter X-Bo and russian Б
-It does not look like 6 at all.
6 Б
what are the similarities? Nothing. That's your answer. Nothing. There are no similarities.
Why should it be added?
FOREIGN NAMES >:| (my god my humor is so broken)
Because its cool :) ☺️☺️☺️☺️
Б is basically reversed . Some letters have reversed versions of themselves.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Б is good. Б looks like 6 to some people so is good luck. 🍀👍
its a great extension. I would know. My friends would know. Everyone would know.
Some other things to clarify
-Б's lowercase form can also be written like a reversed .
-My humor is broken
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-Б and old X-Bo are related. That is a canon event.
-I've seen a video about adding this letter to the new alphabet but i forgot what it is. Just trust me bro.
-Sorry for the goofy parts
-I don't speak chinese so this whole thing is in english sorry. The section is moved from a content page by AyuthsCreatorPlays.